Are You Legal?
elenamary
I just went to the Jacksonpike Prison. My friend is there (don’t worry it is a misdemenor however it was her second offence so she got 30 days!)
I recently lost my wallet and as such don’t have my drivers license or even my student ID, so I had to use my passport at the prison. My roommate also lost her drivers license and used her student ID.
When we presented my passport and my student ID, the sheriff(?) told me that my ID wasn’t acceptable she then
asked her co-worker if it would be alright to accept my passport has ID. When she was informed that it was okay
she told me she was going to need my social security number and something with my address on it (she never asked my roommate for either). I handed her my book of checks with my address on it and asked if it was necessary to give my social security number. She responded that yes it was, and I inquired what if I didn’t have one? She responded that everyone has a social security number. I explained to her very politely and with lots of respect that international students didn’t have SSNs. She then asked me “Are you legal?” mind you she had my US passport in hand. And lord of all people, to ask me if I am “legal”, I am NOT the one you want to ask.
I told her yes that I was. I asked her if I could write my SSN down rather than say it aloud.
She got lots of attitude and said that she didn’t see why I couldn’t just say it out loud. I explained it made
me uncomfortable and that I would be more than happy to write it down and that I appreciated her understanding.
I was damn respectful, I would’ve made my nuns proud.
Plus I really wanted to see my friend.
The story gets much better. After seeing my friend I went back and asked the woman
for her name and identifying number. She refused to give it to me and told me she didn’t have to because it was
“personal”. I explained that as a civil servant in a civil setting it was not, and that her identifying number
was given by the government. She said again “I don’t have to give it you. It is my name it is personal. And you
won’t tell me what it is for.” I asked if I could speak to her supervisor. She called him and he refused to speak to me.
I asked her if I could have his name and identifying number. She refused again. I asked her are you refusing to
give me your name or an identifiying number and your supervisors name and identifying number” she responded yes and
told me that i needed to get out of her window. I explained to her again that as a civil servant this was a
very acceptable request. She walked away and took someone else at a different window.
Anyway I am pissed.
I’ll be filing a formal complaint tomorrow.
Posted in Ohio, Politics, immigration, personal |






Julissa Says:
February 19th, 2007 at 11:20 am
Based on my interactions with prisons, the employees (Guards,Clerks) think they’re above the law. Very disturbing.
Xine Says:
February 19th, 2007 at 12:46 pm
EM you ROCK!
Henri Poole Says:
February 19th, 2007 at 3:26 pm
Where is their privacy policy? How many holes are in it? What will an Ohio Sunshine Law request for their logbook produce? Where are their printed regulation, procedure, data processing and training manuals? What promulgated regulation pursuant to law requires them to collect or act in any given fashion? Does anything contradict or exceed law? Does the federal privacy act apply? If so, where is the notice? If you pop a kid out and insist/require beforehand to not assign an SSN [don’t check the box, fill the form, etc], bing, no SSN, it’s totally possible. What do they do with any info you give them anyways? No do = no need. Who the hell cares who visits so long as they don’t cause trouble. If they handled two different people inconsistently, you own their curlies. No, you will never see the actual elected sheriff, only deputies, contractors and civvies. Where is your recorded proof? Your state, www.ag.state.oh.us, has sweet sunshine laws and even official AG opinions [same place, harder to find] that pretty much allows you to request anything anonymously in an office and wait there politely till they produce. Like say names, ID, position, pay of all employees, including the twat at the counter;-] Within reason of course, first read, understand, print, educate, research. Then plan, try, prove. Be safe, smart, polite, spoken, sure, not stupid and arrogant. If the nuns aren’t happy, or at least forgiving, it’s not being done right. –HP, NH.
tin Says:
February 28th, 2007 at 9:37 pm
wow Elenamary, you have strong ovaries. cheers to your perseverance.